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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-6061</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be interested if you could post up the cost of that call Dermot. Then add up all the other calls you make to other ones, multiply it by a few million and that's what the telecoms are making extra per month on "low call numbers". Scam, scam, scam!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be interested if you could post up the cost of that call Dermot. Then add up all the other calls you make to other ones, multiply it by a few million and that&#8217;s what the telecoms are making extra per month on &#8220;low call numbers&#8221;. Scam, scam, scam!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dermot</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-6056</link>
		<dc:creator>Dermot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DAve good point. I rang Dell Tech serice today. It took me 41 minutes on their 1850 number , speaking to someone in India or similar. I'm just wondering how much this will cost me, I'm with Eircom. What's worse the problem wasn't solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DAve good point. I rang Dell Tech serice today. It took me 41 minutes on their 1850 number , speaking to someone in India or similar. I&#8217;m just wondering how much this will cost me, I&#8217;m with Eircom. What&#8217;s worse the problem wasn&#8217;t solved.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-5346</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right Biju but those numbers are not always available. For example here's a company that does all the credit card merchant services for Bank of Ireland and they don't have an international number for Ireland!!!

http://www.elavonms.com/default.asp?sid=35&#038;pid=81</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Biju but those numbers are not always available. For example here&#8217;s a company that does all the credit card merchant services for Bank of Ireland and they don&#8217;t have an international number for Ireland!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.elavonms.com/default.asp?sid=35&#038;pid=81">http://www.elavonms.com/default.asp?sid=35&#038;pid=81</a></p>
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		<title>By: Biju</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-5309</link>
		<dc:creator>Biju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All; 

Almost every department and company having an additional normal landline number for customers calling from outside Ireland apart from theire 1850/1890 number, just need to check their contact option for customers calling from ourside the coutry, and make calls to that number(00353...), both your 1850/1890 and international numbers are directed to same department

Regards
Biju</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All; </p>
<p>Almost every department and company having an additional normal landline number for customers calling from outside Ireland apart from theire 1850/1890 number, just need to check their contact option for customers calling from ourside the coutry, and make calls to that number(00353&#8230;), both your 1850/1890 and international numbers are directed to same department</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Biju</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-3290</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for delay in response...

@Martin: Very interesting. That might be a nice website to launch here if it didn't have much manual overhead. 

@Brian: I think a website publicing the scam by the phone companies to charge extra for these numbers might be a way to go. If people know about it... let ComReg now and then publicise it. Gerry Ryan would surely have a listen! :D

@Job: I think 076 are treated as another area code and would be included in minutes but I'm not 100% on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for delay in response&#8230;</p>
<p>@Martin: Very interesting. That might be a nice website to launch here if it didn&#8217;t have much manual overhead. </p>
<p>@Brian: I think a website publicing the scam by the phone companies to charge extra for these numbers might be a way to go. If people know about it&#8230; let ComReg now and then publicise it. Gerry Ryan would surely have a listen! <img src='http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Job: I think 076 are treated as another area code and would be included in minutes but I&#8217;m not 100% on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Job</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-3014</link>
		<dc:creator>Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if those new VOIP 076 XXX XXXX numbers are the same as the 18XX ones, meaning not included in the 'Minutes' packages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if those new VOIP 076 XXX XXXX numbers are the same as the 18XX ones, meaning not included in the &#8216;Minutes&#8217; packages?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-2653</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 18/00/50/90 series was good for what it intended to do. People were not financially penalised for using these prefixes...but along comes Mr. Cellphone. "Mr.C." will take a slice of whatever is 'available'. The beef is with mobile operators who charge extra, because they can. For instance, US mobile customers pay for all incoming calls whether roaming or not, and call charges are upped to the nearest minute. Wrong incoming number? Sorry, it's still going to cost you even for 1 second..for a full minute. Why can a consumer savvy public accept this? Don't know the answer. But I do know BUYER BEWARE, use your skill albeit at some inconvenience. If the mobile operators notice a drop in "premium" routings they will price accordingly. These numbers are cheap when used as designed..but bad value compliments of "Mr. C".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 18/00/50/90 series was good for what it intended to do. People were not financially penalised for using these prefixes&#8230;but along comes Mr. Cellphone. &#8220;Mr.C.&#8221; will take a slice of whatever is &#8216;available&#8217;. The beef is with mobile operators who charge extra, because they can. For instance, US mobile customers pay for all incoming calls whether roaming or not, and call charges are upped to the nearest minute. Wrong incoming number? Sorry, it&#8217;s still going to cost you even for 1 second..for a full minute. Why can a consumer savvy public accept this? Don&#8217;t know the answer. But I do know BUYER BEWARE, use your skill albeit at some inconvenience. If the mobile operators notice a drop in &#8220;premium&#8221; routings they will price accordingly. These numbers are cheap when used as designed..but bad value compliments of &#8220;Mr. C&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Sheridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Sheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David 
Great, point! Have had quite a few 1890/1850 calls recently. In England, for equivalent numbers, such as 0870/0808, there is a site called saynoto0870.com. It,presumably where it can, gives you the STD number of the 0870. Could this be done here?
Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David<br />
Great, point! Have had quite a few 1890/1850 calls recently. In England, for equivalent numbers, such as 0870/0808, there is a site called saynoto0870.com. It,presumably where it can, gives you the STD number of the 0870. Could this be done here?<br />
Martin</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/18501890-numbers-are-a-scam/#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stephen: Yes, I liked this as a new customer of yours. Especially since I was moving from Fasthosts in the UK and international numbers!

@Graham: It's a nice idea and it works quite well I must say. I might have a few customers for you. Thanks for the info you sent! :)

@Aoife/Laura: Exactly my point! If you add up all those extra charges for dialing the 1850 instead of the associated fixed line number, the phone companies are making a tidy sum. I think ComReg should look into it! Oh, I've the AIB fixed line in my phone too!

@John: There is good information for the business alright. I've used them before and they can be good for buying easy to remember numbers like FirstActive's 1890 678910 I think. However, they are being advertised as "low call" numbers when they are in fact not anymore.

@Ciaran: That's a different use of the 1890 numbers altogether but I see your point. If you had the fixed line number the 1890 number directed to, it would be even cheaper for you!

@Eamonn: I agree, the fixed line number should be supplied along with the 1890/1850 number. It would be interesting to know how much extra business Blacknight would get if they employed an 1800 number or any business for that matter. Would the extra sales out way the cost?

@Michele: I got your name wrong too the first time I talked to you on the phone a few years back!!! I hope you've forgiven me for thinking you were a girl back then!!! :)

@Barry: Well, old friend! How's it going? In fact, I never liked the way Digiweb (for example) offered a freephone for their sales line but not their support line. I actually always like the fact that H365 had the same freephone for both departments. I suppose I think the 1890/1850 numbers are good for marketing campaigns but for long terms use, a fixed line number would suffice as it usually doesn't cost anything more to ring these but does if it's an 1890/1850!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephen: Yes, I liked this as a new customer of yours. Especially since I was moving from Fasthosts in the UK and international numbers!</p>
<p>@Graham: It&#8217;s a nice idea and it works quite well I must say. I might have a few customers for you. Thanks for the info you sent! <img src='http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Aoife/Laura: Exactly my point! If you add up all those extra charges for dialing the 1850 instead of the associated fixed line number, the phone companies are making a tidy sum. I think ComReg should look into it! Oh, I&#8217;ve the AIB fixed line in my phone too!</p>
<p>@John: There is good information for the business alright. I&#8217;ve used them before and they can be good for buying easy to remember numbers like FirstActive&#8217;s 1890 678910 I think. However, they are being advertised as &#8220;low call&#8221; numbers when they are in fact not anymore.</p>
<p>@Ciaran: That&#8217;s a different use of the 1890 numbers altogether but I see your point. If you had the fixed line number the 1890 number directed to, it would be even cheaper for you!</p>
<p>@Eamonn: I agree, the fixed line number should be supplied along with the 1890/1850 number. It would be interesting to know how much extra business Blacknight would get if they employed an 1800 number or any business for that matter. Would the extra sales out way the cost?</p>
<p>@Michele: I got your name wrong too the first time I talked to you on the phone a few years back!!! I hope you&#8217;ve forgiven me for thinking you were a girl back then!!! <img src='http://www.davidbehan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Barry: Well, old friend! How&#8217;s it going? In fact, I never liked the way Digiweb (for example) offered a freephone for their sales line but not their support line. I actually always like the fact that H365 had the same freephone for both departments. I suppose I think the 1890/1850 numbers are good for marketing campaigns but for long terms use, a fixed line number would suffice as it usually doesn&#8217;t cost anything more to ring these but does if it&#8217;s an 1890/1850!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, long time no see.

It don't think it's feasible to ask Businesses to use a Freefone number, as they may be open to abuse from customers ringing in for Support, generally the Sales number should be freefone, while support calls (depending on SLA) may be lo-call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, long time no see.</p>
<p>It don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s feasible to ask Businesses to use a Freefone number, as they may be open to abuse from customers ringing in for Support, generally the Sales number should be freefone, while support calls (depending on SLA) may be lo-call.</p>
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